0000077398 00000 n The polished brass trigger guard and walnut grips hold true to tradition. +J+J+J+J4+J4+Ji4F`4F`4fCg~1x:4lCC6a` ? ? Dakin Gun Company Importers of Italian and Spanish Shotguns, c 1960 in San Francisco, California. 0000015377 00000 n The barrel and cylinder are blued steel. Markings on gun barrels and other gun components that indicate the level of pressure, calibre and standards that a weapon is fit for in service.. The mark is applied after the gun has passed the Belgian proof. with this information in an attempt to clear up some wrong information My feeling is you have a Walker copy someone made look old. Most specimen marks are of this nature, and it is no unusual thing to find the marks of two different smiths upon the same weapon, one man signing the lock work, the other being the barrel maker. 0000007663 00000 n Tullea three spiked crown or mitre above a capital E (as shown below). barrel began as a means to insure its safety and integrity. Spain depended for long upon the proof of individual armourers, and most Spanish barrels were marked with the stamp of the maker set in a square or oblong block under a crown. SOLD FOR: $1175. Last edited: Feb 17, 2018. 0000003080 00000 n The cylinder is marked with the Gardone and black powder proof marks and displays a reproduction of the 1843 Navel battle scene typically found on Colt C1860 Army revolvers. %PDF-1.6 % Italian reproduction date markings Italian reproduction date markings By Brasspounder December 23, 2014 in SASS Wire Start new topic Brasspounder Members 321 Gender:Male Location:Fairbanks, Alaska Interests:Shooting old time blackpowder guns, landline telegraphy, railroads SASS# 9076 Golden Heart Shootist Society, Fairbanks, Alaska 0000120205 00000 n 136 43 0000004954 00000 n 1851 Navy Black Powder Revolver Redi-Pak .44 Cal. 0000011827 00000 n Miscellaneous '9+ }`=swrE-OqmU>zAw$aAY@O| Italian Firearms Year of Manufacture Look Up. 0000029262 00000 n 0000009527 00000 n There are a number of Many of the models imported are classified as curios and relics. Abbreviation and tradename for Early and Modern Firearms Corporation, a manufacturer and importer of black powder and cartridge arms in Studio City, California. ix)]'Aa-;O;KGg 6+Rg^vF$^og>XxZaNz:E 0000052647 00000 n There were a good many very small family shops in the Gardone, Brescia area of Italy like MOFRA and others. You can choose to work with makers from Italy directly or contact distributors for a more varied assortment. There are typically three stamped mark on every italian made black powder rifle, shotgun and revolver. endstream endobj 137 0 obj <> endobj 138 0 obj <>/Encoding<>>>>> endobj 139 0 obj <> endobj 140 0 obj <>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB]/ExtGState<>>> endobj 141 0 obj <> endobj 142 0 obj <> endobj 143 0 obj <> endobj 144 0 obj <> endobj 145 0 obj <> endobj 146 0 obj <> endobj 147 0 obj <> endobj 148 0 obj <>stream 0000009592 00000 n 0000001989 00000 n Mf+wwJcC] }oUA!o=}OWWAn7 1967 = XXIII. 1991 = BA. The barrel pictured is a perfect example as it bears all of the Italian proof marks described. b` I"G3M9YCNxB5)f(1TVVA |7dZgM gBg >noPow l+zyU"^-0x5LH2O4~3z1RuYC.5,CJc38Z"(:o0IoJ(V-7Lvh{_.#DAh8 ITALIAN PROOF MARKS PrOOF mark CirCa PrOOF hOuse tYPe OF PrOOF and gun Italian Firearms Year of Manufacture Look Up works for Beretta, Benelli and other Italian firearms. Testing the gun I hope it will aid those seeking information on their black powder cap & ball reproduction revolvers. We have provided you After years of looking at and trying 0000001752 00000 n Uberti black powder revolvers are exact replicas of their famous predecessors, and are built to perform reliably and safely with modern black powder loads. Board Of A proof load normally runs 30% more pressure than its corresponding service load, not 30% more powder. jh-@^z^gq}$g=@(M B{)C[ A voluminous schedule of rules and scales of charge for the proof of various kinds of small arms is in existence, and the proof is the same at London and at Birmingham; though different proof marks are employed. 1969 = XXV. I will continue to add to the "library" as new marks are made aware of. 0000013676 00000 n 1968 = XXIV. ,!x#B3`Ev xb``b``` @16 l-,8sh-[1%3*.\ M=S!b6B>&X=ME#e*U3\'VC~Aa1 &w"2))vttgh \4 Tb@Rj hd`@ )fc``T v`#l> ^1?Y,Zi;?I+OT)po=|:U:EK{ mg`r#w /r] 136 0 obj <> endobj HT=0+ @|7IqE.sQ"$9>tB}vUe&iF=P[mEjo(lHBRAu)0u^Y_8Ii)uLBAo*3 3SL*l4r_g[#}eF9ihFCym>s@MRFzaVLz8 0000003896 00000 n A picture of your revolver uploaded from your files would provide the other clues as to what specific model you have. 0000007778 00000 n Predictably, speed jumped from around 750 fps to well above 900 fps. since 1950 E. German, Suhl 1st black powder proof for smooth bored barrels since 1950 E. German, Suhl inspection mark since 1950 E. German, Suhl choke-bore barrel mark PROOF MARKS: GERMAN PROOF MARKS, cont. The previous owner kept it in a display in his gun room. Barrel length is 5 3/4" and overall length is 11". (tr_WXvvL6Eu'}OI U-XY!A:Xnid~g,~:@ZP&kl$VsYA<5FTbf]0>okJ!wK9ae0 Lc#As;$'NS.7 5bUSGD}pzYVn5"I-6.K3obuGUQ,qe2F'.2sAI/.Dr\,:cyH=y39'vT-[ 6T for exports be able towithstand a proscribed load without damage. The Italian proof houses in Gardone and Valtrompia have been around for a very long time but as far as reproduction black powder arms are concerned, the dating begins in 1954. Serial Numbers. 0000016679 00000 n 0000010481 00000 n 0000004123 00000 n 0000002445 00000 n The year of Fjestad. 0000122300 00000 n 0000010481 00000 n Feedback. 0000134772 00000 n 0000092657 00000 n Next is the mark which has "PN" - the Gardone & Brescia 1st Black Powder Proof mark used since 1959. Underneath the whole appears the word St. Etienne. 0000038657 00000 n H\j0~ I have a Piettas revolver that is marked with the letters. Some older foreign 0000006802 00000 n 0000099472 00000 n Didn't find what you were looking for? According to Col Robert Whittington in "The Colt Whitneyville-Walker Pistol", the fires Colt walkers were proofed with a "full charge" of fffg and a Bullet. It is becoming apparent that the major manufacturers used these shops as sub-contractors as a source of parts as well as complete revolvers for those distributors seeking cheaper and cheaper guns. 0000005765 00000 n 0000003744 00000 n 0000003864 00000 n Uberti cartridge rifles embody the look and feel of the Old West. An additional listing showing old PN in French does indeed mean Poudre Noire, but as most BP handguns we see these days are made in Italy then it stands for Polvere Nero - Italian for black powder. Proof Marks or "Proofs" as they are sometimes referred to have changed over time, therefore assisting in dating the arm. skootchingdog 4 yr. ago It seems fitting that "XXX" happened in the 70's. 0000008724 00000 n You are using an out of date browser. INTRODUCTION Most imported black powder replica revolvers are stamped with a variety of markings - Italian, Belgian, German, Spanish or other Proof House symbols, manufacturer's symbols, and importer's symbols along with an encoded date of proof, also considered the date of manufacture. Large quantity of surplus guns and exotic guns, 155MM HE 107 Full Zone 8 Charge with Electronic Fuze, BA 312 Semi-Auto Magazine Tube Tactical Shotgun, BA 912 Bullpup Mag-Fed Semi-Auto (2 Different Mold). 0000000016 00000 n 0000090159 00000 n Founded in 1957 by the late Val Forgett, Jr. Over the years, this company has imported many black-powder and modern surplus firearms and replicas. 0000007161 00000 n for identifying the acceptance and proof marks as it appears, many Included with the marks is a brief history of each of the manufacturers who made or are still making these replicas and the importers/distributors who imported these replicas based on what is currently known about them. 0000028135 00000 n PROOF MARK CIRCA PROOF HOUSE TYPE OF PROOF AND GUN 1891-1928 Budapest smokeless powder proof for parabellum pistols Since 1981 Ferlach smokeless powder proof for parabellum . The most visible change is the change from a crown to a star 1950 so crown and PSF is from the time between 1923 and 1950. T^;y} 4E 0000014256 00000 n TABLE OF RELATION BETWEEN LETTERS AND YEARS FOR THE ITALIAN PROOFTEST HOUSE The second one PN under a star means BLACK POWDER PROOFING (P stands for POLVERE - POWDER, N stands for NERA - BLACK) Thanks for posting those codesI use them quite often to make sure the correct parts are ordered. In 2012, Navy Arms now operated by Val Forgett III, temporarily suspended the importation side of the business. These two, and sometimes the makers private mark, may be found on many old weapons. 0000004972 00000 n 0000105108 00000 n The same rulses are more or less applied today. location, rather than a manufacturer. All rights reserved. weapon. 1990 = AZ. 0000039439 00000 n Joined Mar 2, 2020 This "certifies" that each chamber was proofed at 8,800 psi with a 30% plus load. Military firearms can be difficult to identify because they JavaScript is disabled. The Italian proof test markings are three (see picture) The first one (two letters in a rectangle) represent the year of prooftesting. Italian Proofmarks & Dates of Manufacture 1945 - 2030 By Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 December 20, 2013 in SASS Wire Start new topic Posted December 20, 2013 Here are the codes for knowing when your Italian-manufactured firearm was made (proof date) This is from an Italian shotgun Website: shotguns.se/html/italy.htm These marks tell the country of origin of the weapon. 0000002659 00000 n 35 0 obj <> endobj The proof marks for Eibar, in Spain, are the letters Po, surmounted by a crown. 0000003452 00000 n 178 0 obj <>stream Thanks for finding it for me. 0000067226 00000 n The gun is a good shooter but the hammer comes down solid on the nipples, enough that the hammer isn't fully down. Rifles & Musket Information. Navy Model Right side -- Black Powder Only -- Made In Italy Bottom flat -- "BFB" (manufacturer's mark) Caliber -- 36 (.380 round ball) 0000001338 00000 n 0000126405 00000 n FEMALE PEOPLE, Tusco Long Riders, Brown Township Regulators, Firelands Peacemakers, Ohio Valley Vigilantes, Indiana Black Powder Guild, OOWSS, Umpqua Regulators, Siuslaw River Rangers, RUCAS, Jefferson State Regulators, Klamath Cowboys, Wolverton Mt. In addition to Good info. In 1888 it was decided by a joint meeting of the Gunmakers Company and the Birmingham Guardians that a new supplementary proof for smokeless powder should be instituted in 1893, 1896, and 1904; the rules were further adjusted to allow for new powders. Genuine Parker-Hale barrel markings - roll marks and proof stamps, A Comparison: The Zouave and the Mississippi, This is from the Colorado State Muzzle Loading Association [cont], This is from the Colorado State Muzzle Loading Association Journal. Italian made cap and ball sixguns have a variety of markings that denote the year of manufacture, the proof houses where it was tested and the manufacturers name or logo. 0000078548 00000 n It is usually a combination of heraldry and letters or logos, which need to be decoded in order to determine the actual manufacturer of the reproduction. But I am starting to believe this is true. Remington New Army 1858 as copied by the Confederate Army during the Civil War. The "PN" under a five point star in a wheel is the actual proof mark. The Model 1851 Black Powder Revolver comes with a hammer rear sight and a fixed front sight. THE PROOF MARK IS A STAR OVER PN. 2: A re-bored rifle. Attachments 1LC_7209.jpg 259.2 KB Views: 601 1LC_7210.jpg I saw that as wellnote that AE was used, but "BE" is skipped. endstream endobj 43 0 obj <> endobj 44 0 obj <>stream Their health and their love.I love The people I have gotten to meet in sass and the ones that have just talked to on the wire.I do like to shoot and pick on people at the shoot.I love the hugs I get and the ones I will get when I meet some on you people. 0000008989 00000 n Largest pricelist of weapons and civil supplies. 0000099401 00000 n Junior Member . Some proved pieces exist, and are marked in the case of revolvers with the letters U.S., in the case of other arms with the letters V.P. 0000052569 00000 n 1810 -> Liege. 0000036933 00000 n 0000010518 00000 n 1810 - 1853. Year of Manufacture: 1997 (BI Date Code) Caliber: .44 Cal. August 19, 2012, 10:13 AM #8: MogrenE. . They are built with state-of-the-art materials, so you can enjoy safe and reliable performance with modern ammunition. New rule called for marking of gauge along with shell length for smoothbore barrels. The flag is your country of origin and is that the Swiss flag? 0000004035 00000 n Over the years I was amazed at the poor quality control done. The AE is the proof mark and that is decoded as 1979. 1891 - present 16 Your gun appears to be made by one of the lesser known companies as it doesn't say Uberti or Pietta. trailer << /Size 67 /Info 20 0 R /Root 23 0 R /Prev 117549 /ID[<3013820267cc20c18f38ceb2ef54c0c3>] >> startxref 0 %%EOF 23 0 obj << /Type /Catalog /Pages 19 0 R /Metadata 21 0 R /AcroForm 24 0 R >> endobj 24 0 obj << /Fields [ ] /DR << /Font << /ZaDb 16 0 R /Helv 17 0 R >> /Encoding << /PDFDocEncoding 18 0 R >> >> /DA (/Helv 0 Tf 0 g ) >> endobj 65 0 obj << /S 98 /V 209 /Filter /FlateDecode /Length 66 0 R >> stream During the 1960s, 1970s, and even into the 1980s there was a bonanza market for these replica revolvers. 0000002052 00000 n 0000004652 00000 n THE PROOF MARK IS A STAR OVER PN. It has a Naval scene roll marked on the cylinder. The information was given to me years ago and yes I was wondering myself how they got 30% more powder into the cylinders! 0000067053 00000 n Post request for quotation and get multiple offers from manufacturers. 0000000016 00000 n Prior to 1954, the year of proof was indicated in full Arabic numerals. Once tested and successful the weapon was stamped with a seal to acknowledge the testing - called "Proof Marks". to identify the manufacturer. 0000003020 00000 n Very unusual underhammer as the cocking knob is a better design so you can grasp it easier and. 0000004008 00000 n Some proof marks on side of frame and the roman numeral XX. 0000013943 00000 n :idunno: I know it of recent manufacture since Pietta began making this particular model only in recent years. 0000008224 00000 n Quick View Add to Cart . 0000007873 00000 n The viewers mark was a capital V, also surmounted with a crown. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 0000105711 00000 n 0000124308 00000 n M) endstream endobj 38 0 obj 702 endobj 39 0 obj << /Type /FontDescriptor /Ascent 935 /CapHeight 0 /Descent -211 /Flags 4 /FontBBox [ -182 -307 1000 1086 ] /FontName /EIOFKH+ArialNarrow /ItalicAngle 0 /StemV 0 /FontFile2 41 0 R >> endobj 40 0 obj << /Type /Font /Subtype /TrueType /FirstChar 32 /LastChar 146 /Widths [ 228 0 0 0 0 0 547 157 273 273 0 0 228 273 228 228 456 456 456 456 456 456 456 456 456 456 228 228 0 0 0 456 0 547 547 592 592 547 501 638 592 228 410 547 456 683 592 638 547 0 592 547 501 592 547 774 547 547 501 228 0 228 0 0 0 456 456 410 456 456 228 456 456 182 182 410 182 683 456 456 456 456 273 410 228 456 410 592 410 410 410 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 182 ] /BaseFont /EIOFKH+ArialNarrow /FontDescriptor 39 0 R >> endobj 41 0 obj << /Filter /FlateDecode /Length 19412 /Length1 28000 >> stream THINGS THAT GO BANG! 0000105361 00000 n 0000080946 00000 n 0000059736 00000 n Misc. 0000076880 00000 n 1848 Dragoon Revolvers. 0000000016 00000 n 0000016641 00000 n Double proof as prescribed by the French law of 1810. What you have there appears to be a model 1858 Remington New Army replica black powder revolver. 0000036825 00000 n Re-proof mark, seen on black powder rifles which had been proofed with nitro powders. E.M.F. 0000006260 00000 n 0000039738 00000 n manufactured firearms, such as pistols from Spain and Italy, will list a 0000037713 00000 n %PDF-1.3 % It has on with a star above it and a shield with a star above it. 0 0000147394 00000 n 1945 = 1. It is possible that these shops did not have an Italian firearms manufacturers license and could not sell their products direct, so they were sold through other manufacturers who had a license. 148 75 All that tells is that it was made in Italy in 1976. Thank you for Pietta 1858 Remington Buffalo Black Powder Revolver - .44 Caliber 12" Barrel Brass Frame w/ Blued Barrel - RGC44. Thanks, Claude. Gun Proof Marks, Stamps and Date Codes . 0000005702 00000 n From left to right (upside down) are the test house and black powder proof house stampings, followed by a boxed BM, denoting a . Markings: The top of the rifled barrel is marked "Col. LeMat." surrounded by a decorative border, the left is . 35 45 Under their charter the Gunmakers Company had powers to prove and mark all manner of hand guns, daggs, and pistols, and every part thereof, whether made in London or in the suburbs, or within ten miles thereof, or brought thither for sale, or imported for foreign parts. These marks are customarily the cipher of the gunsmiths' guild and the mark of the State or city. reference books that display proof marks and their meanings. Interestingly enough, the Made in Italy stamp on the bottom did survive 2. Seen on repaired guns that required re=proofing. There used to be an odd-duck that came about several ways. date, serial number and property marks as well as various acceptance and 0000012820 00000 n Above trigger has has shield pn and AE. Worldwide Logistics for all your products. Proof F.A.P. Applies primarily to guns made outside the U.S. Information courtesy of The Blue Book of Gun Values by S.P. M855 Green Tip. Not common but very neat. LSB#: 210317JM01. Beretta used no date code in 1944. :hmm: Thanks for the help. 1989 = AU. In this video I'll. Action Type: Percussion Black Powder Revolver. The fifth a crown, with three crossed spikes set over a capital E. Other French towns had their special marks, such as %PDF-1.4 % %%EOF trailer This site is an educational and resource site for collecting cap and ball replica revolvers. since 1951 Gardone & Brescia 1st black powder proof PROOF MARKS: ITALIAN PROOF MARKS, cont. The major manufacturers could not meet the demand and American distributors wanted more of and different models of what were being produced. I know that this info has been posted before, but I appreciate your posting it again. I think it is a new Army 1858 but the Navy Arms on the top of barrel confuses me. Fairly common in comparison, owners would have their favorite smokepole bored out instead of having the barrel re-rifled or "refreshed". The system of proof in Great Britain was as follows: In England, the second charter of the Gunmakers Company granted in 1672 marked the beginning of the official proving of arms, but it did not apply to weapons made elsewhere in the Kingdom, provided they were not offered for sale in the London market. From left to right: year of manufacture, Gardone V.T. Following is a chart displaying the year of proof symbols used from 1954 to 2003. The butt is marked "PFT FIE ITALY", etched "5K8 12 80755". 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